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Pat Robertson has recently asked whether people who have sex with ducks are protected by hate crimes legislation; two young women engage take a satirical take with "sex with ducks". Both at Feminist Law Professors. It does remind me of a South Australian MP several years ago who argued that the decriminalisation of prostitution would lead to sex with ducks. What is it with ducks? Are they thinking of ducks with giant penises?

Recent addition to Casa di Lafayette/Hoehnhauss has been a video projector; a Hitachi XSGA CPSX5500. Several years ago these cost $10,000 and whilst the technology was superior to standard LCD, they were outrageously expensive; even a replacement globe costs over $1,000. So work bought three new projectors for their Access Grid room and I'm borrowing this old one. The resolution is very good, but the colour is a heavy shade of blue; hopeless for colour films, but excellent for our vast collection of black and white classic films (and [livejournal.com profile] caseopaya knows her classics) projecting a 'screen' of some 2m by 1.5m.

Other recent entertainment includes an excellent game on Friday eve of Insectes and Companie (PDF, French language, translation coming) run by Fabrice and on the Sunday session of GURPS Krononauts which involved Hernan Cortes capturing of Moctezuma in the middle of his own capital and his subsequent sortie of against the 1,000 Spanish soldiers sent to arrest him (Wikipedia summary available). Whilst I have little friendly to say about his imperialism (although they did put an end to religious human sacrifice) one cannot help but be thoroughly impressed by his strategic and tactical genius mixed with an extraordinary confidence in his own abilities.

Date: 2009-06-01 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
Their concern is that if one "perversity" is allowed then it will be open slather for any others. You know, it might even lead to dancing eventually.

But more realistically, is there any justification for their concerns? Especially considering that the gay rights movement is based on universalising the rights of consenting adults.

I can think of one situation where this might apply; genetic uplifting of animals to adult human intelligence..
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Date: 2009-06-02 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
I can't possibly imagine a situation where organisations like NAMBLA have the same degree of support as gay rights advocates, in part given that NAMBLA was expelled from the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association, but more importantly that the principle of consent seems to be fundamentally different.

Something I do note about such organisations like NAMBLA and their supporters is they don't differentiate between biological and legal categories. But then again, I see that conflation used by their puritan opponents as well..
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Date: 2009-06-02 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
It would require an enormous number of other changes. It would have to come with massive conceptual changes in contract law, citizenship and voting rights, criminal responsibility etc. all of which would at least require some backing by the appropriate professional associations along with developmental psychologists.

Date: 2009-06-02 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stephen-dedman.livejournal.com
I suspect you're wrong - unless, of course, the rich sense that there's serious money to be made by making something such as NAMBLA legal. But under the US system, at least, it's easier for conservatives to prevent any changes to a law than it is for moderates to push them through.

Date: 2009-06-02 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
Well, there's already plenty of advertising directed at children....

Date: 2009-06-02 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zey.livejournal.com
I kinda think South Park put it pretty well:

NAMBLA LEADER
Rights? Does anybody know their rights?
You see, I've learned something today.
Our forefathers came to this country
because... they believed in an idea. An
idea called "freedom." They wanted to
live in a place where a group couldn't
be prosecuted for their beliefs. Where
a person can live the way he chooses
to live. You see us as being perverted
because we're different from you. People
are afraid of us, because they don't
understand. And sometimes it's easier
to persecute than to understand.

KYLE
Dude. You have sex with children.

NAMBLA LEADER
We are human. Most of us didn't even
choose to be attracted to young boys.
We were born that way. We can't help
the way we are, and if you all can't
understand that, well, then, I guess
you'll just have to put us away.

KYLE
Dude. You have sex with children.

STAN
Yeah. You know, we believe in equality
for everybody, and tolerance, and all
that gay stuff, but dude, fuck you.

KYLE
Seriously.

Date: 2009-06-02 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
A far cry indeed from Chef's "salty chocolate balls".

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