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Pat Robertson has recently asked whether people who have sex with ducks are protected by hate crimes legislation; two young women engage take a satirical take with "sex with ducks". Both at Feminist Law Professors. It does remind me of a South Australian MP several years ago who argued that the decriminalisation of prostitution would lead to sex with ducks. What is it with ducks? Are they thinking of ducks with giant penises?

Recent addition to Casa di Lafayette/Hoehnhauss has been a video projector; a Hitachi XSGA CPSX5500. Several years ago these cost $10,000 and whilst the technology was superior to standard LCD, they were outrageously expensive; even a replacement globe costs over $1,000. So work bought three new projectors for their Access Grid room and I'm borrowing this old one. The resolution is very good, but the colour is a heavy shade of blue; hopeless for colour films, but excellent for our vast collection of black and white classic films (and [livejournal.com profile] caseopaya knows her classics) projecting a 'screen' of some 2m by 1.5m.

Other recent entertainment includes an excellent game on Friday eve of Insectes and Companie (PDF, French language, translation coming) run by Fabrice and on the Sunday session of GURPS Krononauts which involved Hernan Cortes capturing of Moctezuma in the middle of his own capital and his subsequent sortie of against the 1,000 Spanish soldiers sent to arrest him (Wikipedia summary available). Whilst I have little friendly to say about his imperialism (although they did put an end to religious human sacrifice) one cannot help but be thoroughly impressed by his strategic and tactical genius mixed with an extraordinary confidence in his own abilities.

What is it with ducks?

Date: 2009-06-01 11:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sjkasabi
I think it may be the alliteration.
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Date: 2009-06-01 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
Let me work that out.. Two-thirds of the White House plus three-quarters of the United States equals more heterosexual couples than single women who are greater in number than male same-sex couples which equals sex with tortoises :)

But WHERE ARE THE LESBIANS?! My God, it's a lesbian-free world. The horror! That must be what causes male-sexual acts with such creatures...
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Date: 2009-06-01 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
Their concern is that if one "perversity" is allowed then it will be open slather for any others. You know, it might even lead to dancing eventually.

But more realistically, is there any justification for their concerns? Especially considering that the gay rights movement is based on universalising the rights of consenting adults.

I can think of one situation where this might apply; genetic uplifting of animals to adult human intelligence..
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Date: 2009-06-02 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
I can't possibly imagine a situation where organisations like NAMBLA have the same degree of support as gay rights advocates, in part given that NAMBLA was expelled from the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association, but more importantly that the principle of consent seems to be fundamentally different.

Something I do note about such organisations like NAMBLA and their supporters is they don't differentiate between biological and legal categories. But then again, I see that conflation used by their puritan opponents as well..
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Date: 2009-06-02 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
It would require an enormous number of other changes. It would have to come with massive conceptual changes in contract law, citizenship and voting rights, criminal responsibility etc. all of which would at least require some backing by the appropriate professional associations along with developmental psychologists.

Date: 2009-06-02 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stephen-dedman.livejournal.com
I suspect you're wrong - unless, of course, the rich sense that there's serious money to be made by making something such as NAMBLA legal. But under the US system, at least, it's easier for conservatives to prevent any changes to a law than it is for moderates to push them through.

Date: 2009-06-02 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
Well, there's already plenty of advertising directed at children....

Date: 2009-06-02 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zey.livejournal.com
I kinda think South Park put it pretty well:

NAMBLA LEADER
Rights? Does anybody know their rights?
You see, I've learned something today.
Our forefathers came to this country
because... they believed in an idea. An
idea called "freedom." They wanted to
live in a place where a group couldn't
be prosecuted for their beliefs. Where
a person can live the way he chooses
to live. You see us as being perverted
because we're different from you. People
are afraid of us, because they don't
understand. And sometimes it's easier
to persecute than to understand.

KYLE
Dude. You have sex with children.

NAMBLA LEADER
We are human. Most of us didn't even
choose to be attracted to young boys.
We were born that way. We can't help
the way we are, and if you all can't
understand that, well, then, I guess
you'll just have to put us away.

KYLE
Dude. You have sex with children.

STAN
Yeah. You know, we believe in equality
for everybody, and tolerance, and all
that gay stuff, but dude, fuck you.

KYLE
Seriously.

Date: 2009-06-02 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
A far cry indeed from Chef's "salty chocolate balls".

Date: 2009-06-01 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bibsy.livejournal.com
Duck penises are so freaky.

Date: 2009-06-01 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
Well those ones in particular. I am not expert on any other species.

I does make me wonder what the duck vagina of said species looks like.

Sadly, there are no zoologists in the office, only a microbiologist. But he might know!

Date: 2009-06-01 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-shadow298.livejournal.com
ducks rock.

it's a simple universal fact.

therefore sex with ducks must rock more and be the ultimate pleasure and taboo.

but the whole fundo and neo-conservative attitude that if you allow gay marriage than they will make bestiality legal and other such nonsense.
There is no social imperative for such action nor is there an acceptance of it, so they use it as scare-mongering of the ignorant.
As a dear poly-sexual friend recently put it "Bestiality is the September 11 of Gay Marriage". The mentioning of it in any context strikes fear into the stupid.

Date: 2009-06-01 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
Nice icon. It's a demon duck! You will be pleased to know that such creatures did exist, in a manner of speaking.

There is no social imperative for such action nor is there an acceptance of it, so they use it as scare-mongering of the ignorant.

Oh that's the slippery slope you see... Once gay marriage is accepted then who know what will come out the woodwork.

Of course, given that the gay rights movement has been around the principle of consenting adults deserve to be able to make their own decisions and deserve the same rights one would have to find a duck with adult human intelligence....

Maybe one day in the far future a love that dare not quack its name...

Date: 2009-06-01 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-shadow298.livejournal.com
demon ducks rock!

and true but I don't realy think that there will ever be a time where society sees a need to allow people to marry animals or do anything else with them.
Nothing to gain from it but you never know what wackos may appear to push it (like PETA or Furries).

Maybe one day in the far future a love that dare not quack its name
And guess that I just found another song title for my all Duck Metal Band. :D \m/ ^_^ \m/

Date: 2009-06-02 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
Chances are when we're at to that stage of genetic engineering that the human species will be a moot concept anyway.

You could always do a metal version of Garfunkle & Oate's "Sex With Ducks".. :)

Date: 2009-06-02 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-shadow298.livejournal.com
too true.

the time of hybrids and all that.

and never heard that song but could give it a try. :)

Date: 2009-06-02 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
It's linked in the original post. Here's the youtube link; it's two minutes that will cause great amusement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXPcBI4CJc8

Date: 2009-06-02 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-shadow298.livejournal.com
OK, thanks.

didn't check the links because net slowed until today, so will look now. :)

Date: 2009-06-02 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] txxxpxx.livejournal.com
Check the colour balance setting on your projector. It may have a white balance function which will bring all of the colours back to square & you can then adjust the RBG individually

Date: 2009-06-02 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
Done all that (indeed did it when they were still installed at work and before we purchased new machines)... It's a sadly dying liquid crystal on globe.. But for the time being it's just fine..

Hmmm... Jamaica Inn is black and white.. :)

Date: 2009-06-02 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cluebyfour.livejournal.com
"2 Girls, 1 Mallard"? Hawt.

Date: 2009-06-02 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
I think you've just thought up a new website :)

Date: 2009-06-02 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cluebyfour.livejournal.com
Sure, but where do I find a consenting duck?!

Date: 2009-06-02 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stephen-dedman.livejournal.com
Especially if she/he has to be over the age of consent, and needs ID that proves it...

Date: 2009-06-03 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darknova666.livejournal.com
dont duck the issue!

Date: 2009-06-03 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
Gives "flying south for winter" a whole new meaning...

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