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Excellent weekend; started Friday eve with Blade Runner: The Final Cut at the Astor with [livejournal.com profile] imajica_lj, [livejournal.com profile] kremmen, [livejournal.com profile] hathhalla, [livejournal.com profile] ser_pounce, [livejournal.com profile] caseopaya and Michael C. all in attendance. The new, digitally-enchanced film has a few minor modifications, perhaps most notable being the extra crowd scenes and the original, more graphic (but not gratuitious), violence. Personally, I still think it's a little weak on that regard, but overall it is still one of the greatest films of all time.

On Saturday [livejournal.com profile] severina_242 and [livejournal.com profile] _zombiemonkey did the marriage thing, at the Old Treasury Building. Unsurprisingly, they both looked fantastic in their Victorian-era clothing and with their many Goth-type friends, it was all a very appropriate scene. Small dinner gathering afterwards at Pure South was likewise enjoyable. The setting a little modern for my tastes, but with excellent food. Didn't go to the "drinks and dancing" afterwards, but I'm sure it went well. Congratulations to both of you...

Following the Auditor-General's porkbarreling revelations, an assesment shows the Coalition election campaign has been a debacle from start to finish. Just when you think they couldn't get worse, last night Howard brought out the most brain-damaged policy for the entire campaign. Meanwhile, AWA's in action: when you have few buyers of a product and many sellers the price goes down. That's what happens to hospitality and retail wages.

In recent weeks, I've ditched my membership to [livejournal.com profile] libertarianism and [livejournal.com profile] anarchists. With the former convinced I am some sort of communist and the latter convinced that am sort sort of capitalist and one full of aggressive frat-boys and the other full infantile punks, it is far better to spend time in the quieter, more mature, more pragmatic, [livejournal.com profile] socialists community. On a similar angle, having reached the point of boredom on Warbook and frustrated with Scrabulous timing out, I've ditched all my Facebook applications. Suddenly... I have more time.

Date: 2007-11-18 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadine.livejournal.com
Your brain-damaged policy link has gone away...

Date: 2007-11-18 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

Try now...

Cut-n-paste from another el-jay entry inserted a whitespace. Damn whitespace..

Date: 2007-11-19 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lardarsegreg.livejournal.com
Why do people like Facebook so much, to the point where I've been asked several times if I'm on there?

Date: 2007-11-19 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

It has apps like Warbook and Scrabble. Livejournal doesn't.

LJ's killer app is the friends list. I haven't seen any other social networking site which allows you to keep in touch with what other people are doing in such a easy and unobtrusive manner.

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Mini-rant. (sorry)

Date: 2007-11-19 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsidhe.livejournal.com
... when you have few buyers of a product and many sellers the price goes down.

I'm sure that [livejournal.com profile] erudito would dispute that, and claim that the amount of demand is independent from the number of individual buyers. I would, in turn, point out that a monopoly/oligopoly of buyers is just as bad as a monopoly/oligopoly seller. And he would retort that the data (dredge deep into a statistics web site, link to some abstruse policy website or four) actually says that this isn't the case. I reply that actually, it says that it is strongly proportional, and therefore there is heavy influence between the number of players and the price they pay, even if it is not the only factor, and he says that it is more complicated than I had posited and I was therefore wrong, and I point out that he had himself simplified and was prey to the same criticism, and he says that I am misunderstanding him deliberately and calling him evil, and I go WTF and stop playing, and he gets email wondering how he puts up with those evil abusive stoopid leftys.

I particularly like the comment suggesting that he filter his economic links to those who will agree with him, because when so many people reading his blog disagree with him, it must be them. That so many people who disagree with him read his blog anyway, because they find his arguments interesting, yet worthy of debate, is somehow embarrassing. Or inconvenient.

Why is it, by the way, that I see Leftys (social progressives, anti-xenophobics, non-economic-fundamentalists, however you define it) commenting on Rightwing (social conservative, militaristic, economic unleashed, lunatic liberatarian, whatever) forums, but rarely the other way around unless the Lefty has been brought to special attention. Could it be that Leftys go looking for alternate viewpoints, even if they do disagree with them, where the right tend to be happiest in an echo chamber?

No, I couldn't possibly say that. Any comment which disparages a Righty is ipso facto abusive, it seems.

Re: Mini-rant. (sorry)

Date: 2007-11-19 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
I'm sure that [info]erudito would dispute that, and claim that the amount of demand is independent from the number of individual buyers

Actually on this issue, iirc, he agrees largely that monoposony exists for semi-skilled and unskilled workers, but the reverse exists for highly-skilled necessary workers. Which apparently includes IT (ha!).

Anyway, I've put in my 2c on the thread..

Could it be that Leftys go looking for alternate viewpoints, even if they do disagree with them, where the right tend to be happiest in an echo chamber?

Actually I've been planning my next post on that very topic. I would have put it in this one... but y'know, space invasion..

Re: Mini-rant. (sorry)

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Re: Mini-rant. (sorry)

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Date: 2007-11-19 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strang-er.livejournal.com

"Could it be that Leftys go looking for alternate viewpoints, even if they do disagree with them, where the right tend to be happiest in an echo chamber?"

Perhaps it somehow reflects a collectivist vs individualist outlook?

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Re: Mini-rant. (sorry)

Date: 2007-11-19 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

You should check the letter in today's Age - just below mine ;-)

A casual wage

IN 1989, my 16-year-old daughter was paid $7.40 an hour for casual work in a chain store. In 1992, my 16-year-old son was paid $9.40 an hour for casual work in a supermarket. In 2007, my 16-year-old granddaughter is paid $7.60 an hour for casual work in a cafe. Guess what my family thinks of WorkChoices?

Kath McKay, Upwey

http://www.theage.com.au/text/articles/2007/11/19/1195321692321.html

Date: 2007-11-19 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tempusfrangit.livejournal.com
Facebook is a black hole. :D

Date: 2007-11-19 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

I think I've pulled away from the event horizon. :-)

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Date: 2007-11-19 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-figgy.livejournal.com
I might log on to Facebook once a week, and it would be less frequent if I didn't have constant messages saying someone attacked my vampire or zombie or whatever million other games people begged me to join. The Existere Editors remain perfectly happy with a closed facebook group as an editing roundtable, though, and vehemently opposed to having an e-mail list instead...

Date: 2007-11-19 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
it would be less frequent if I didn't have constant messages saying someone attacked my vampire or zombie or whatever million other games people begged me to join

Warbook was the best, but even then interest wanes...

But yes.. That's pretty much why I've dropped all the apps.

Date: 2007-11-19 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cluebyfour.livejournal.com
The main problem with [livejournal.com profile] libertarianism is that too few of its members are (IMO) true libertarians.

Of course being an anarchist myself I am often reminded by others that libertarianism != anarchism or some such nonsense. I got tired of providing them history lessons a long time ago.

Date: 2007-11-19 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

I think I should have realised that when a straw poll of members indicated that the majority considered "economic freedom" (freedom from taxation, the right to purchase and invest etc) more important than "political freedom" (sovereignity of the body, civil rights etc). That really should have the point that I simply gave up trying to have a sensible discussion.

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Date: 2007-11-19 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seanr.livejournal.com
I think most of the regulars in /libertarianism appreciated your contributions, despite the inevitable contention when two (seemingly) opposite viewpoints collide. Anyway, I'll look forward to your insights in this journal. See ya

Date: 2007-11-19 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

Well, if you're going to be a regular reader, heck, go right ahead.

Date: 2007-11-19 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amazinggoatgirl.livejournal.com
Here here! Libertarianism isn't going to be as exciting. ::emo tear::

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Date: 2007-11-19 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenicurean.livejournal.com
I do hope [livejournal.com profile] libertarianism continues to be a wide tent. Although I do sometimes feel we could do with fewer bestiality threads...

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Date: 2007-11-19 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shorxrore.livejournal.com
i actually never saw bladerunner before until i saw the new release in theaters a week or two ago. i gotta say i didn't really like it that much. obviously it was hyped up cuz so many people looooove it but i don't think the hype ruined it for me or anything. i thought it was going to be really intelligent and interesting but instead i just thought it was a moderately fun campy movie like star wars (which is also very overrated in my opinion). i thought the plot hade huge holes and the acting was poor and the storyline didnt really make any sense with little to no character development. i just dont get it. meh.

also, i refuse to add any facebook applications cuz they're so goddamn annoying on people's pages. i think i may add one or two eventually but i also don't really care that much and it's easier to say no to all of them :P

oh also add me on facebook my email is lehrer.jesse@gmail.com woooooooooha

Date: 2007-11-19 05:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

I know it's a cliche but Blade Runner really is one of those films that does get better with a second viewing.. And a third... And a fourth

I wasn't very impressed with it the first time I saw it; and nor were the punters at the box office. Yet over the decades through the VCR market it grew in popularity as people gave it second (and more) viewing.

I think it's because the visuals are so overwhelming that the more subtle elements of the plot and characterisation is lost; Roy Batty's transformation, for example, is nothing short of miraculous and the same can even be said for his mirror opposite, Deckhard. Even some of the incredibly intense emotional scenes, like when Deckhard reveals to Rachel that she's a replicant is easily overlooked ...

Besides, any film that has obscure Hungarian insults in it is OK in my book

Added. :-)

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Date: 2007-11-19 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neonchameleon.livejournal.com
quieter, more mature, more pragmatic, [livejournal.com profile] socialists community

Quiet, mature, pragmatic. On LJ? Say it ain't so! (Or is that only a comparative)?

Date: 2007-11-19 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

I tell you it's true!

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Blade Runner

Date: 2007-11-19 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laptop006.livejournal.com
How could you ignore the lack of narration?

I went on thursday and found it the best projection I've ever seen, so good in fact that I found it made the Cars trailer look a little plastic and not like a film.

Of course given it's a half-million dollar projector I'm not surprised.

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Date: 2007-11-19 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

How could you ignore the lack of narration?

Well that wasn't in the Director's Cut, was it?

I don't mind the narration in the original release - it gives it a bit of a gumshoe-noir feel, even if it does reduce the active imaginative input of the audience.

This is, I recognise, a minority opinion.

Date: 2007-11-19 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenicurean.livejournal.com
As much as I periodically despair over [livejournal.com profile] libertarianism, I have to say that reading [livejournal.com profile] socialists has only convinced me that if I were to habitually comment on it, I would have to spend my entire free time arguing. (This even though I'll give the community the benefit of the doubt here, and assume that the majority of it does not seriously lionise Hugo Chávez's crude rough-and-tumble socialism.)

Date: 2007-11-19 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

The thing is (a) socialist theory is so broad and (b) socialists recognise this so inevitably it means that rather than get into a long-winded argument, they tend to go "Oh, OK, our views differ".

(I reckon Chavez is rough-and-tumble; some of his economic and political decisions are seriously counter-intuitive. But heck, if I was an average poor man in Venezuala, I'd be voting for him..)

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Date: 2007-11-19 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lindsay40k.livejournal.com
In recent weeks, I've ditched my membership to libertarianism

Oh, man, no wonder I feel like the only Lefty in the village...

Date: 2007-11-19 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenicurean.livejournal.com
But let's face it, we so very much need the balancing voice.
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

He's a little too easy to tease. After all, he's very confused about his sexuality - and species for that matter.

http://community.livejournal.com/libertarianism/1811747.html

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