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Made my pitch this week to the Victorian Boating Industry Association to redo their website using open source technologies (example) for a mere $5000. They decided to go with a more expensive proprietary solution, which was currently being used by two out the four decision makers. Damn. In other IT work related news have worked through some VB code to make Bendigo payroll and invoice payments automatic through an MS-Access interface. Started CCNA semester three; (re)learnt about VLSM (Variable Length Subnet Addressing). Borderlands' server died yesterday (after six months of me giving the CoM warnings). Fortunately I had another server on order (without the CoMs permission) and planning the build tomorrow. Perhaps now they will listen to me.

Last night travelled to Spotswood's old pumping station with [livejournal.com profile] caseopaya to see We Built This City, a multimedia documentary of the building industry and current IR legislation appropriately set underneath the site of a notorious building accident; the West Gate bridge. A combination of interviews, the Trades Hall choir, industrial sounds, some Aussie rock (with Mark Seymour!) film interviews, mini front-end loaders in synchronised movement (like Arab horses) and dancing cranes (I kid you not). Really was quite good fun.

The Catholic Archibishop of Sydney, Dr. George Pell, again proves he is a powerful moron. I have just written to The Age suggesting that the good Dr. check the Christian Bible and the history of the Roman Catholic Church for the advocacy and use of violence. He might find one or two ;-). [livejournal.com profile] lederhosen provides further insight to his mind.

GetUp have organised a new petition aimed at preventing the Government's plans to put children of asylum seekers back in detention. Once again youngsters US prove to be geographically illiterate. The World Conservation Union claims that the mass extinction rate is now includes hippos, polar bears and 1/3 of amphibians.

Date: 2006-05-05 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

"In the past, pagans sacrificed animals and even humans.."
Joshua 6:26
2 Kings 10:25
2 Kings 22:2
2 Kings 23:20
Exodus 13:2,12,15
Exodus 22:10
Exodus 29:33
Leviticus chapters 1 to 9
Numbers 18:17-19
Numbers 19:1-22
Numbers chapters 28 and 29
Deuteronomy 12:27

Good work. Damn good.

Date: 2006-05-05 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsidhe.livejournal.com
Because, of course, it is indisputable that requesting a practice which is known to be damaging the planet be stopped is directly comparable to staking a live human being under a peat bog.

Remember, boys and girls, there was a (remote) chance that this man might have been Pope!

Notice also that there is implicitely no connection between the Modern, Forward Looking Church, and some regrettable actions of the past (which must, naturally, be understood in the context in which they occurred), while there explicitely is a direct, unbroken and causative link between those peat-bog Celts, and Blood-for-Odin Vikings, and modern Neo-Pagans -- why, they could start sacrificing children at any moment!!1!

Date: 2006-05-05 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

Of course, the Church is civilized now... Christians of all walks wouldn't kill for religious reasons. Hang on...

Date: 2006-05-05 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curufea.livejournal.com
Apparently the only people who have read the bible are non-christians.

Date: 2006-05-05 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

LOL. They usually understand it better.

Or maybe Christians started reading it and thought "Hang on a minute! I like eating prawns!

Date: 2006-05-05 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] curufea.livejournal.com
Too many folk assume knowledge and don't take kindly when their ignorance is pointed out.

The difference between them and me is - I'm often willing to find out and am far less likely to be offended when my own ignorance is pointed out.

Date: 2006-05-05 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

*nods* I believe it is a sign of good character to be able to happily acknowledge when one is mistaken.

Date: 2006-05-05 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_fustian/
It's not about good character; it's about good sense. I mean, who wants to stay wrong?

Date: 2006-05-05 05:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

*snerk*

Most people with such an attitude believe they are always right.

Date: 2006-05-06 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

That's really quite beautiful.

Date: 2006-05-06 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_fustian/
Yudkowsky is the guru of singularitarianism; a bit like a baby RMS with better grooming and slightly too much Egan. Although I don't agree with a lot of what he says (eg. I think his Friendly AI concept is a way to justify sci-fi idealism about artificial minds — which, as a Butlerian, I consider Abomination) he is a real advocate who has managed to pull together an institute devoted to completing the task humanity evolved to undertake. (Yes, I have accepted the Spike as my personal Lord and Saviour.)

Date: 2006-05-06 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

*updates thesis*

Very interesting little organisation. It would nice to see an Australian chapter, but our Dedictible Gift Benefit rules are quite harsh when it comes to technological improvements of that nature.

Date: 2006-05-05 10:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zey.livejournal.com
Indeed. Last I heard, Mosley Jones III was still ranting away about Iraq's WMD and how Shrubby Boy found them ;-).

Date: 2006-05-06 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

LOL! He's always treated a debate like a boxing match; if you don't give up, no matter how ridiculous your position, you inevitably "win".

What's most likely is that everyone goes "Oh, another nutter"

Date: 2006-05-05 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zey.livejournal.com
Made my pitch this week to the Victorian Boating Industry Association to redo their website

Australia and its 2 degrees of separation, I tell ya... I do a fair bit of sysadmin conslutting work for the people who manage the BIAWA site.

Date: 2006-05-05 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zey.livejournal.com
(Oh also, just in case it's slipped through your mail filters or whatever, I sent an email through the other day with a link to that KTAA app.)

Date: 2006-05-05 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

Yep, got that. Will download when I reboot from Ubuntu ;-)

Date: 2006-05-05 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

Heh. I could have mentioned that if I knew.. Not sure tho' whether it would be a plus or a minus. State-based associations often guard their independence with pathological intensity.

Date: 2006-05-05 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angel80.livejournal.com
I thought it was a bit unfair in a geography quiz to ask about where a certain TV program was set!

Date: 2006-05-06 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

Ah, yes but that is unfair through your bookish eyes. Said TV program is probably very well known among young Americans.

That said, I didn't know it either, even though I've watched it a few times. Cold Case is a much better show. Very interesting politics as well.

Islam

Date: 2006-05-05 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The church has largely apologised for its errors in the past, but in any case that is irrelevant here. Islam cannot be criticised? If Pell is disqualified from doing it, as you seem to believe, who isn't? We must just keep silent about it?

Re: Islam

Date: 2006-05-06 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
In what way is it not irrelevant?

Pell is condemning the Qu'ran for allegedly being a book that advocates violence and Islam for being an intolerant religion.

If he is going to use the allegedly holy book and past actions are evidence one must ask why does not consider Islam to be capable of being as peaceful or as tolerant as the Christian faith, given their own history.

Re: Islam

Date: 2006-05-06 03:02 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"given their own history."

There you have it. Do you have any substantive objections to the painting of Islam as an intolerant faith at all? Changing the subject and talking about Christianity doesn't inspire confidence that you do.

Re: Islam

Date: 2006-05-06 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
Do you have any substantive objections to the painting of Islam as an intolerant faith at all?

Of course not. Intolerance and violence are to be condemned no matter who engages in it. I have argued with Muslims precisely on this point.

My criticism of Pell is because he is engaging in hypocrisy and bigotry. He is claiming that Christianity was capable of self-transformation, but Islam is not.

Re: Islam

Date: 2006-05-06 06:13 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Islam may be capable of transformation, but as Pell pointed out, if you read his reasons, which you have not argued against, you merely objected to his saying anything at all, it is much more difficult for Islam than it was for the churches.

I see no hypocricy in his attitude, he openly admits to past failings of the church. There is no bigotry, it is informed criticism.

Re: Islam

Date: 2006-05-06 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

"Considered strictly on its own terms, Islam is not a tolerant religion and its capacity for far- reaching renovation is severely limited," he said.

What reasons? That's merely bigotted assertion.

Re: Islam

Date: 2006-05-06 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_fustian/
Pell's critique is nothing but clichéd Clash of Civilisations-style casus belli. Presenting the Jews as murderous thugs bent on eternal vengeance by cherry-picking the Torah is rightly condemned as antisemitic. How is this better?

Re: Islam

Date: 2006-05-06 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

It's just another version of antisemitism.

Besides, it is worth reading the passages of the Qu'ran in context - invariably it was when a nascent Islam was under attack from pagan Arabs.

Certainly the overwhelming majority of Muslim scholars believe in contextual reading.

Re: Islam

Date: 2006-05-06 06:06 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"It's just another version of antisemitism."

So Islam cannot be criticised.

"Besides, it is worth reading the passages of the Qu'ran in context - invariably it was when a nascent Islam was under attack from pagan Arabs."

Utter rubbish. Read this http://www.muslimhope.com/WhatIsJihad.htm. From that page:
.......119 other verses of Qur’an that suggest that Jihad is not merely limited to defensive war alone."

Mohammed himself fought mainly offensive wars, to conquer territory, enrich himself and his men, loot, subjugate, rape and gather more wives for himself and his men.

"Certainly the overwhelming majority of Muslim scholars believe in contextual reading."

Indeed they do. That is why almost all of them have interpreted "smite at their necks" to mean "cut off their heads", within the context you see, of war, war, war.

Re: Islam

Date: 2006-05-06 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
So Islam cannot be criticised.

Please try not to be an idiot. Antisemitism is an prejudice; an a priori judgement prior to reviewing specific instances.

19 other verses of Qur’an that suggest that Jihad is not merely limited to defensive war alone."

Mohammed himself fought mainly offensive wars, to conquer territory, enrich himself and his men, loot, subjugate, rape and gather more wives for himself and his men.

You are wrong, again

As it should be. A jihad is a struggle and the greatest form of jihad is the struggle with oneself to account for conscience.

You simply don't even know what jihad actually means.

That is why almost all of them have interpreted "smite at their necks" to mean "cut off their heads", within the context you see, of war, war, war.

Ridiculous and childish assertion.

We're done I'd say. Further posts from you will be deleted and unread.

Polar beans?

Date: 2006-05-06 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imajica-lj.livejournal.com
...like snow peas? oh noes!!!1!!11

Um ... Perhaps Pell needs to again look into the events leading upto and including the refoemation. There is a REASON there are few remaining "organised" Christian death cults.
Fundamentalist Islam may purge in the same way I suspect, in another 100 years or so. This will probably be the next great stretch of peace.

So I say eat all the snow peas you can whilst you can & speak truthiness to each other.

Re: Polar beans?

Date: 2006-05-06 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
*snerk* I'll fix that typo. What were my finers thinking.

I think you're right. The prospects for Islamic self-reformation are actually quite high - especially in places like Malaysia and Indonesia and Turkey.

I have little doubt it will be led by neo-Mutazilities as well. Their theology is so clever.

First step will be getting rid of the nonsense that the Qu'ran is a perfectly divine text.

Re: Polar beans?

Date: 2006-05-06 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imajica-lj.livejournal.com
wont somebody think of the snow peas!!@@@

Re: Polar beans?

Date: 2006-05-06 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
What were my finers thinking.

Good lord; change that to 'fingers'.

BTW, I'm doing new server install at Borderlands atm with RH Fedora Core 4. I keep on getting kernel panics on reboot. :/

Re: Polar beans?

Date: 2006-05-06 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
I keep on getting kernel panics on reboot. :/

Third install worked... Hooray!

Now for SAMBA on the Windoze boxes.

Re: Polar beans?

Date: 2006-05-06 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imajica-lj.livejournal.com
Watch now as nt locks all user desktop options, preventing active desktop updates and thus nukeing all new session data.

Re: Polar beans?

Date: 2006-05-06 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

Windoze users have to learn somehow ;-)

Maria's tonight? Dinner/drinks with B. and K. were cancelled, so [livejournal.com profile] caseopaya and I have a free eve..

George Pell

Date: 2006-05-07 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laura-seabrook.livejournal.com
The Catholic Archibishop of Sydney, Dr. George Pell, again proves he is a powerful moron.

Yes, I was flabbergasted (as they say) when I heard a quote from him about the Koran, on TripleJ last Friday! Talk about Kettles and Pots of all colours!

Re: George Pell

Date: 2006-05-09 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
Very much so. I really don't think that it's been a particularly good PR move for Pell.

I actually feel very sorry for liberal Catholics. Noble paladins in hell they are!

Date: 2006-05-07 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aske.livejournal.com
Kudos on the letter in The Age. I must say, the response in today's paper is somewhat pissweak, for lack of a better word. ;)

Date: 2006-05-07 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com

Ah yes, I've read that. Funny thing there is over 100 exhortions to violence in the New Testament as well - and Jesus the nice hippy does also state that all of the Old Testament still applies in his rulebook!

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