Interesting response - where were those illusory supporters you have referred to?
Ummm.. They were there and they voted for me?
Sure, I can name four or five people who are regular attendees who couldn't turn up for very good reasons, but my comment still stands. I received a majority of votes from those who turn up at least twenty times per year, and almost zero from those who turn up less than three times per year.
The average attendance for 2012 is 38. I received 30 votes. Of the people who voted for me who are "less than regular attendees", I received 2 3 votes (EDIT: I was reminded of one other).
What do you think this means for the church?
blame the process of election as you like
Well, I think that's a just claim. If you can put aside the personalities for a moment and try to engage in a non-partisan and informed judgement, why do you think that majoritarian block-voting is a fair voting system?
Perhaps it tells you something about those who did turn up, because the AGM mattered and they wanted their voices heard...
Sure, we know why people who are almost never in attendance turned up, don't we? Look, I understand that partisan politics is about establishing and controlling organisations. Heck, I've been in the ALP for long enough to see what branch stacking looks like.
Do you really think it was just pure good fortune that twenty new members were signed up earlier this year, just in time to acquire voting rights for the AGM? And none the month afterwards?
Sort of smacks a little of convenience, doesn't it?
It really is quite sad and weird behaviour, that is going to be prone to encouraging people to put their energies in more accepting organisations that recognise and respect ability.
Ironically, I had no idea who you were until your manners (or lack of them) alerted me to your presence.
Oh, do get over a little snicker, already, shall we? Mea culpa!
Now, you claim that you follow closely what happens at the Church and yet you had no idea who I was?
Perhaps it could be argued that I'm a little biased on the matter, but if you had been following closely you would know how much I have contributed to the church. So either you're a lot less aware than you think you are or you're being less than truthful.
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Date: 2012-10-05 07:20 am (UTC)Ummm.. They were there and they voted for me?
Sure, I can name four or five people who are regular attendees who couldn't turn up for very good reasons, but my comment still stands. I received a majority of votes from those who turn up at least twenty times per year, and almost zero from those who turn up less than three times per year.
The average attendance for 2012 is 38. I received 30 votes. Of the people who voted for me who are "less than regular attendees", I received
23 votes (EDIT: I was reminded of one other).What do you think this means for the church?
blame the process of election as you like
Well, I think that's a just claim. If you can put aside the personalities for a moment and try to engage in a non-partisan and informed judgement, why do you think that majoritarian block-voting is a fair voting system?
Perhaps it tells you something about those who did turn up, because the AGM mattered and they wanted their voices heard...
Sure, we know why people who are almost never in attendance turned up, don't we? Look, I understand that partisan politics is about establishing and controlling organisations. Heck, I've been in the ALP for long enough to see what branch stacking looks like.
Do you really think it was just pure good fortune that twenty new members were signed up earlier this year, just in time to acquire voting rights for the AGM? And none the month afterwards?
Sort of smacks a little of convenience, doesn't it?
It really is quite sad and weird behaviour, that is going to be prone to encouraging people to put their energies in more accepting organisations that recognise and respect ability.
Ironically, I had no idea who you were until your manners (or lack of them) alerted me to your presence.
Oh, do get over a little snicker, already, shall we? Mea culpa!
Now, you claim that you follow closely what happens at the Church and yet you had no idea who I was?
http://levlafayette.com/unitarian-universalist
Perhaps it could be argued that I'm a little biased on the matter, but if you had been following closely you would know how much I have contributed to the church. So either you're a lot less aware than you think you are or you're being less than truthful.