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Diary of a B+ Grade Polymath ([personal profile] tcpip) wrote2009-01-08 03:27 pm
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Enough! Already! (... and mythic diversions)

The Israeli invasion of Gaza continues, with the number of civilian deaths rising dramatically. Claims that Israel has been using cluster bombs and white phosphorus. Two UN schools are bombed killing forty, just after UN ambulances were hit killing paramedics. The definition of a 'terrorist' and a 'valid target'seems to get a bit rubbery according to the IDF. In contrast, Australian Jews denounce the invasion. A former Israeli soldier, and now Oxford professor, has come to some hard conclusions as a result of the invasion. Avaaz (a remarkably effective group) has a cease-fire petition, which I urge all to sign and pass on. Also, go vote for Prof. Juan Cole's 'blog Informed Comment as Best Middle East or Africa 'Blog.

I sometimes find myself drawn into this discussion and over the years have found myself increasingly in support of the "one (democratic, secular) state solution". The partition of Palestine was perhaps the worst early decision made by the United Nations and was not supported by any neighbouring state or by the former colonial power. Under such circumstances it is hardly surprising that there have been seemingly endless violence and wars as a consequence. Resolving the issue would involve ending the pseudo-soveriegnity (as Hannah Arendt put it) of a Jewish state in favour of a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Apart from applying laws equally over what it is currently Israel and the occupied territories, it would involvd ending existing discriminatory institutions and laws (e.g., Knesset Election Law, the control of the Israel Land Administration by the Jewish National Fund, the Law of Return, Nationality Law etc) would have to be abolished in favour of secular alternatives. Of course, having such considered opinions does attract detractors; dear readers, I present you my own troll from Tel Aviv.

Have engaged in a few mythic diversions of late. Last Sunday's RuneQuest Prax game included defeating the witch-queen of disease and visiting a moment of the non-sequential reality that is the Godtime. [livejournal.com profile] darknova666's character jumped between misfortune and elation on several occassions in the scenario. On a further Gloranthan theme I've introduced The Crimson Bat in my HeroQuest pbem. Have also extracted and modified the review of Pathfinder from the latest issue of RPG Review (issue #3 already has three articles, awesome!) to submit to RPG.net. On an oddly related topic, on Sunday week I'm presenting on "A Unitarian-Univeralist View of the Economic Crisis" - how's that related? Afterwards we're playing Credo: The Game of Duelling Dogmas, which is attracting some interest from members of the congregation.
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[identity profile] rialian.livejournal.com 2009-01-08 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
===I do often wonder when that "line" will be crossed, when Israel actually does get seriously punished for it's behavior. The "We are only defending ourselves" is getting REALLY thin and threadbare.

[identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com 2009-01-08 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
Well in a legal sense, Israel is not a member of the International Criminal Court or even the International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid (which is extraordinary), so any legal punishment will have to come from Israeli citizens themselves (which, thank goodness, there are many brave individuals who are prepared to fight their own government in its own courts).

In a military sense, the current government is playing a very, very dangerous game. This action has caused a great deal of anger in the neighbouring Arab states. It is quite plausible that it could lead to a larger zone of conflict which Israel would find very difficult to win. The northern border is, of course, very jittery at the moment, but militarily a more frightening prospect would be an intervention by Egypt; fortunately for Israel, the Egyptian leadership is pretty pathetic.

The "We are only defending ourselves" is getting REALLY thin and threadbare.

Even to the extent that Israel is protecting itself, it hasn't been particularly convincing that this is the right strategy. Heck, you just don't shell a school full of kids because there might be a couple of militia hiding in there. You don't launch a massive invasion threatening the lives of more than a million civilians because there's a handful of casulties from Qassam rockets.

An armed force of UN peacekeepers (unlike the unarmed UN observers in southern Lebanon) on both sides of the borders of Gaza and the West Bank would be one solution, for example.

[identity profile] darknova666.livejournal.com 2009-01-08 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
as per previous wars, israel would wipeout egyptian forces in a battle.

they wouldnt win a guerilla hezbollah fight in lebanon tho.

[identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com 2009-01-08 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
as per previous wars, israel would wipeout egyptian forces in a battle.

In a stand up army vs army battle, yes, that would be true. But even so, remember now that this is not 1973. Egypt has the Sinai and is right on the border of historic Palestine. Their capacity to strike deeply into Israel is greater now than it ever has been.

they wouldnt win a guerilla hezbollah fight in lebanon tho.

No, not at all. Which make the current conflict a very strange gamble indeed even in military terms.

[identity profile] darknova666.livejournal.com 2009-01-09 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
short term politics!

re egypt, im pretty sure israeli tanks planes etc are far superior to the egyptian ones and if the saw an attack coming they would prempt it.