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Labor for Refugees Rally, Heresy and Games, Unitarian Jihad, Kantian!
Well, here's one for the history books. A Labor Party lobby group organising a demonstration for a Liberal Party member.
DEMONSTRATE FOR GEORGIOU'S BILL
Demonstrate in favour of Petro Georgiou's private members bill on asylum seekers
WHEN? WHERE?
Saturday 11th of June at 11am, 695 Burke Road, East Hawthorn (near Camberwell Rd Junction).
Sponsored by Labor for Refugees (Victoria)
(and pass on through your networks)
In other news, played first game of Outbreak of Hesesy yesterday. The party dynamic is good, the players, even the novices, have gotten into their roles with enthusiasm, and the story has a very creepy gothic edge. On the downside, my game system needs work, but I knew that. That's why I'm testing it. Speaking of which, I've been in some contact with B. Dennis Sustare, designer of Bunnies and Burrows, Swordbearer and several Paranoia modules. Only gamers will truly understand the significance of this.
Gave the service at the Unitarians yesterday. The speaker was Mary Bluett, President of the Australian Education Union, speaking on Public Education and the Education Act Review. Next week I'll be the speaker on the topic of "The Unitarian Jihad - An Internet Phenomenon". Most probably have seen it, but the original "call to arms" is here.
The next couple of weeks promises to be very busy. I have several articles to write; two presentations to two East Timor conferences (see previous posts), the above tjihadi piece, a short article for![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
luciousmalfroy on older 'puter games, an issue of Red Friday on the same (of which I am very grateful to lederhosen for The Gamer's Manifesto. I'd better hurry up and get on with the next scene of Ten Thousand Islands as well.
Oh, as if there was any doubt whatsoever, apparently I'm a Kantian.
DEMONSTRATE FOR GEORGIOU'S BILL
Demonstrate in favour of Petro Georgiou's private members bill on asylum seekers
WHEN? WHERE?
Saturday 11th of June at 11am, 695 Burke Road, East Hawthorn (near Camberwell Rd Junction).
Sponsored by Labor for Refugees (Victoria)
(and pass on through your networks)
In other news, played first game of Outbreak of Hesesy yesterday. The party dynamic is good, the players, even the novices, have gotten into their roles with enthusiasm, and the story has a very creepy gothic edge. On the downside, my game system needs work, but I knew that. That's why I'm testing it. Speaking of which, I've been in some contact with B. Dennis Sustare, designer of Bunnies and Burrows, Swordbearer and several Paranoia modules. Only gamers will truly understand the significance of this.
Gave the service at the Unitarians yesterday. The speaker was Mary Bluett, President of the Australian Education Union, speaking on Public Education and the Education Act Review. Next week I'll be the speaker on the topic of "The Unitarian Jihad - An Internet Phenomenon". Most probably have seen it, but the original "call to arms" is here.
The next couple of weeks promises to be very busy. I have several articles to write; two presentations to two East Timor conferences (see previous posts), the above tjihadi piece, a short article for
luciousmalfroy on older 'puter games, an issue of Red Friday on the same (of which I am very grateful to lederhosen for The Gamer's Manifesto. I'd better hurry up and get on with the next scene of Ten Thousand Islands as well.Oh, as if there was any doubt whatsoever, apparently I'm a Kantian.
| You scored as Kantianism. Your life is guided by the ethical model of Kantianism: You seek to have consistent laws rule your actions, and your will is directed by reason. "I do not, therefore, need any penetrating acuteness to see what I have to do in order that my volition be morally good. Inexperienced in the course of the world, incapable of being prepared for whatever might come to pass in it, I ask myself only: can you also will that your maxim become a universal law?" --Immanuel Kant More info at Arocoun's Wikipedia User Page...
What philosophy do you follow? (v1.03) created with QuizFarm.com |
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Ahh, the ceaseless quest for human beings to carve meaning out of a universe that doesn't provide any a priori. As you can see, I'm very close to it. I've even given presentations to the Existentialist Society. Although I wouldn't recommend it as a means of moral decision making.
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Divine Command 0%
Heh. You're so atheistic you'd rather do nothing than listen to the voice of God!
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Doing nothing could very much be the same thing as listening to the voice of God. ;P
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God is apathetic?
That would explain Deism, I suppose.
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Yeah, but Deism is more interesting ;-)
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Hedonism 65%
Utilitarianism 55%
Justice (Fairness)50%
Kantianism 45%
Nihilism 40%
Strong Egoism 30%
Apathy 25%
Divine Command 0%
That last one is hardly surprising - good thing I don't mind Satre huh?
I'd better hurry up and get on with the next scene of Ten Thousand Islands as well.
Yes you had.... I want to know what happens next!!
I just hope I only have this one month of Sunday shifts so I can actually take part in Outbreak of Heresy.... not fair to miss out a game *pout* or am I just being self centred again?
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I scored as Existentialism.
Existentialism 75%
Hedonism 70%
Kantianism 60%
Justice (Fairness)60%
Utilitarianism 60%
Divine Command 25%
Apathy 20%
Strong Egoism 15%
Nihilism 15%
Bugger, i liked the ring of "Justice (Fairness)".
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Existentialism 85%
Utilitarianism 70%
Hedonism 65%
Nihilism 50%
Strong Egoism 50%
Justice (Fairness) 50%
Kantianism 35%
Apathy 20%
Divine Command 0%
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I suspect for "justice" and "fairness" what the quiz is actually testing is "equality".
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Hey, look at all the discussion this one generated!
(OK, most are crap, I agree)
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*Chokes on water*
Wait WHAT WHAT WHAT!!!!???!!!!
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It's true. These days he spends his time playing Chinese chess although there's a possibility that he'll be writing another Paranoia module.
He sent me a photo Tadashi from Different Worlds.
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I always felt that Kant's insistence on the disregard of consequences was ethically indefensible. I suppose this explains our different positions on D&D3E. You won't use it because it's a bad system, but I think that it's what you do with the system and how many people you reach with it that counts.
Having read the Jihad statement, I feel a strong desire to join.
I'm quite interested in 10,000 islands too...
Kant and Ethics
Poor Kant. He's so misunderstood.
I'm going to pinch from the answer I gave to
Kant doesn't disregard consequences, it's just that there is a strong distinction between moral principles and situational ethics. His disregard of consquences in his moral theory is not supposed to be ethicially defensible, in the same way the noumenal forms are not supposed to represent phenomenal objects.
For example (oft-used example) Southern Poland 1942. Two armed SS officers knock on the door of a peasant's home.
"Good morning. Do you have any Jews here?"
"Oh no, none at all", says the peasant, lying through his teeth.
"Thank you", says the officers, "have a nice day".
Now the peasant has breached Kant's moral principle here. It is wrong to lie. You wouldn't want people lying to you and society couldn't function if everyone was lying to each other. However, Kant would say, although the action is immoral it is ethicially justifiable as the peasant has good reason to believe that if he told the truth, a worse moral crime would be committed.
A cynic could say, in Kant, ethics is about how to be justifiably immoral...
Having read the Jihad statement, I feel a strong desire to join.
There's an el-jay community just for that!
I'm quite interested in 10,000 islands too...
I'll send you an email invitation real soon now (I'm at work and even this el-jay response is a bit sneaky)
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It seems to me that the "moral" part becomes basically irrelevant then, since it is superseded by the "ethical" part, but not vice versa.
In fact you've given a utilitarian/ethical/consequential justification for the "moral rule" there - society couldn't function if everybody lied (though as an anthropologist, I suspect society wouldn't function if everyone told the truth - check out those adds for lemon iced tea for an amusing example of why...)
Re: Kant and Ethics
"do good though the heavens fall"
That was the stoics; and it was more "do justice though the heavens fall.
It seems to me that the "moral" part becomes basically irrelevant then, since it is superseded by the "ethical" part, but not vice versa.
Not at all. The moral part always has priority. One only ethically breaches a moral principle when one reasonably suspects a greater moral principle will be breached if the lesser isn't.
I suspect society wouldn't function if everyone told the truth
Society, in a sense, doesn't function. It has a background relation of truth (people in normal day to day life) which gives it some stability. But the systematic campaign of lies from politicians through to advertising is constantly threatening this stability.
It also leads to be both sociopathologies and cultural impoverishment, but that's another matter...
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Ahh, I heard it got a bit of coverage. Missed it myself...