ext_267135 ([identity profile] keith418.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] tcpip 2009-09-15 10:04 pm (UTC)

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Please...

"But is there any one thus intended by nature to be a slave, and for whom such a condition is expedient and right, or rather is not all slavery a violation of nature?

"There is no difficulty in answering this question, on grounds both of reason and of fact. For that some should rule and others be ruled is a thing not only necessary, but expedient; from the hour of their birth, some are marked out for subjection, others for rule."

- Aristotle

This doesn't seem compatible with humanistic ideas at all. Have you looked at Cicero's take on infanticide recently? How hard would it be to find other examples that are just as egregious?

I think you are hoping for different origins than really exist. You can be a total romantic, but that will not harmonize modern liberalism and ancient paganism. Heidegger and Habermas might disagree about everything else, but this they agree on.

"All significant concepts of the modern theory of the state are secularized theological concepts."

- Carl Scmitt

The "theological concepts" derive from the theology of Judeo-Christianity just the way Habermas and Heidegger say they do.

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