Perhaps not (although I would have missed out on the slogan "Goodness must have the fists"). Debating with velkun was a little like shooting fish in a barrel.

As a friend of mine says (incidentally of Jewish heritage)... "Arguing with some people about Israel/Palestine is simply pointless. They cannot remove themselves from their own prejudices to think about what life is like for the other side".

But how else can you find such wondrous claims?