ext_3181 ([identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] tcpip 2007-05-07 06:53 am (UTC)

Re: kumite.


I am trying to say that perhaps it would be more palatable if you removed all philosophic references to Kant and any one else ... and whilst showing your working (heh) just call the philosophy ... yours.


Well, in brief the argument goes as follows. Assume there is a debate over whether space and time "really" exist and, secondly, whether space-time is independent of any observer. Now someone comes along and claims that space-time is is ideal and that "idea" of space-time transcends any and all observers (i.e., transcendental idealism). Further, because we can imagine space without objects it is a priori, but because we must experience it, it is synthetic. Provable examples of this are, apparently, mathematics and Euclidean geometry.

This seems to largely work with human cognition. However, it is my opinion that 20C physics (not to mention mathematics) did some serious damage to this idea. Firstly, because it has been shown that there is a relationship between gravity and space-time, which seems to suggest that it ain't so "ideal" after all. Further there is the cosmological argument which seems to suggest that matter-energy and space-time co-exist. One can imagine what appears to be "empty space", but not actual empty space (which would, at the very least, be "full" of boson particle-waves).

So from the initial proposition a step is taken backwards and the suggestion is made that, "oh no, these are ontological issues, what is really being suggested by transcendental idealism and the synthetic a priori is an epistemological issue". Right, so it's knowledge, not existence of space-time which is an innate intuition of the human mind. Now you of all people do not need me to go into many examples on why the particular examples of mathematics and Euclidean geometry cannot stand as proofs on this matter.
So what's left? Well, a part of epistemology I (and Gödel) would suggest, i.e., phenomenology.

Apropos, I must paraphrase Feynman on this matter: "For a successful technologyphilosophy, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."

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