To many people, to whom the point is to get together and chat and socialise and eat and catch up and do a bit of gaming too, it's still a "yes", but to such a tiny extent that it's not a big deal.

In which case it is isn't the game that's important, let alone the system. They could have the same experience over coffee or at bar.

You also enjoy a good argument, so I'm sure you're happy to have found people with the opposite view who are passionate enough to argue with you about it.

True, but I also hold (quite seriously) that my opinions can be swayed by the better argument.

That is why I didn't simply assert that system is important, but gave examples why.