I agree! I agree! Why are we arguing again? :)

Seriously, it was tcpip who was claiming a special status for the "metaphysical", not me. Thoughts and ideas (no matter how apparently confusing or meaningless) are as much a part of the natural world as apples and pears, and the contents of thoughts/ideas are no different. It's only when one begins to accord the contents of thoughts a special status that "metaphysics" scuttles out from behind the wainscoting to frighten the children.