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Diary of a B+ Grade Polymath ([personal profile] tcpip) wrote2005-09-06 05:36 pm

About to fly to Perth, Prosper, Katrina.

About to hop on the big silver bird and fly to Perth for a week or so. Finished most of my data for my presentation at the SAGE-AU conference. On Saturday at 7pm there will be a eating, drinking and talking fest which I'm hosting at:



Oxford Hotel
368 Oxford St Leederville WA 6007
ph: (08) 9444 2193 Hotels--Accommodation



So leave an el-jay comment if you expect to turn up, so myself and the hotel have some sort of idea of numbers. Expected activities, apart from SAGE-AU, include a visit to Murdoch University where the lovely people at MARS are holding a "How to Host a Murder" eve. Add that to two days of the conference and possibly a journey down south and all shall be good.

Presentation at Prosper Australia went extremely well. There were a few surprises in the audience, including the Herald Sun reporter who interviewed me on the notorious tram-ticket case and Greg T. Both were their due to their respective fathers being members of the organisation.

Here's a prediction: The Liberal Party may self-destruct in a very messy manner. The rise of the extreme religious right in the party, is marginalising the more centrist liberals. The latter of course don't have the numbers and the former don't care about party unity. They have an agenda of fire and brimstone. Shame we're the one's who have to receive their "inspired" governance.

So, hurrican Katrina. Kill those who try to get food and water. When is a looter not a looter? This is a disaster of epic proportions. Not surprisingly many are having a go at the Bush administration as up to 10,000 are feared dead. Time to face the awful questions of responsibility. This guy is a hero. How did Cuba cope? With decentralised administration and social capital of course.

[identity profile] spinner.livejournal.com 2005-09-06 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Shame we're the one's who have to receive their "inspired" governance
I'll drink as much as possible to that

as for the AP's tagging of photo's, letting race decide if they were shoppers or looters: an utter disgrace.

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[identity profile] kremmen.livejournal.com 2005-09-06 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Decentralised administration is an alternative, but there are many ways to deal with the same problem. Centralised administration can work fine, or can be totally botched. Australia handled Cyclone Tracy very rapidly by providing leadership and vast resources. The USA have handled Katrina very poorly by being disorganised and deploying very few resources. I've said more about this here.

[identity profile] jahbulon.livejournal.com 2005-09-06 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Lev why is it that humans will applaud a rebellious hero in a movie; but when some teenager saves 100 people from a frickin flood by 'stealing' a bus that would have sat and rusted anyway, some of them cry foul? Where is all this anger against the unfortunate coming from? It can't just be the looting, raping etc.. There are undercurrents of self-loathing here. It fucks me right up :/

[identity profile] amarynth.livejournal.com 2005-09-06 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
If my drink-drink slash-slash is one of the centrist Liberals, I can't say they offer much of an alternative to the hardliners.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_fustian/ 2005-09-06 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] delicious_irony and I will see you there on Saturday.
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[personal profile] redcountess 2005-09-06 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
What gets me though, is one of the Republican party's principles is decentralised government, yet FEMA was a separate department until the Bush administration made it responsible to DHS!

[identity profile] cptjohnc.livejournal.com 2005-09-06 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
I heard an interesting perspective today on NPR today that the US response has, in fact, been excellent, and that people are getting a very unrealistic picture of what is and could be possible under the circumstances. I am unclear on the guy's credentials other than he is an author (but on what I don't know) and a veteran of numerous international natural disaster response teams.

And I'm not sure centralization hurt this effort, as FEMA has no first responders of its own -- at best it coordinates efforts. I've been tangentially involved in coordinating relief efforts on the ground through a couple of natural disasters (Hurricane Andrew in 1992 and flooding in 1996-7 in the midwest) and I know that media reports don't always present the 'fairest' picture of the situation... just the most dramatic.

[identity profile] shorxrore.livejournal.com 2005-09-06 10:08 am (UTC)(link)
cuba pwnage.

[identity profile] lederhosen.livejournal.com 2005-09-06 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
One editor snags a pre-captioned photo off the wire and sticks it up on the site; another snags a different photo off the wire and sticks it up half an hour later. There's no obvious reason for them to be checking all their content against all their other content, and indeed it'd be impossible to do.

Asked to compare only those two pictures, anybody can see that it's a bad idea. But they're not working with only those two; they're working with hundreds of pictures and reports. It's like one of those 'Where's Wally?' puzzles - easy to see once you know where to look.

anyway this was the one i think: http://www.livejournal.com/users/azad_slide/357962.html

In reference to the claim that "AFP has another article in which they call black people looters but not white people"? I can't see any white people *in* the sole AFP-credited photo in that post. AFAICT, both services are working on the principle that if their journalists actually see people take stuff from inside stores they can call it 'looting', otherwise they avoid the word; which photos/articles break that rule?

(Last picture on that page is uncredited, but from the filename looks to be AP; note that although it shows a black man jumping out of a broken store window, he's *not* described as a 'looter' - presumably because he's not obviously carrying anything.)

[identity profile] bridgetdrusilla.livejournal.com 2005-09-06 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Expected activities, apart from SAGE-AU, include a visit to Murdoch University where the lovely people at MARS are holding a "How to Host a Murder" eve.

I guess I'll see you there.

[identity profile] zey.livejournal.com 2005-09-09 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
With luck, I'll see you at The Oxford. If not, I guess I'll force myself out the door to Sin and maybe catch you there ;-).

[identity profile] feathersoul.livejournal.com 2005-09-09 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
will you be going to Sin?
I'm tossing up between wandering to the Oxford to say hi (if you want me to, that is), or just hoping you'll be at Sin...i have a million assignments and client reports to get done, so i don't know whether it'd be wise for me to go to the Oxford as well as Sin. i'm also very very nervous in large groups of people i don't know, so you probably wouldn't get a very good impression of me!