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Diary of a B+ Grade Polymath ([personal profile] tcpip) wrote2012-10-05 12:00 pm

LUV, US Elections, Gaming, Socialising

Last Tuesday night convened the monthly LUV meeting. A good turnout, and two excellent speakers which have spurred my hitherto laziness on the need to learn and use HTML5 more extensively. Have also made initial preparations for LinuxConf AU 2013 and, across The Ditch, Multicore World 2013.

This Sunday Dean Edwards, Vice-Chair of Democrats Abroad (Au) will be speaking at the Kooying ALP FEA on the US Presidential elections. Expected a good turnout and interest. Have followed the polling closely at RealClear Politics and FiveThirtyEight, both of which suggest an Obama victory.

Pendragon game last night introduced the mythic story of The Fisher King. Earlier this week my review of [livejournal.com profile] jiawen's Blade and Crown was published on rpg.net. Last Sunday Redmond finished a session of Dark Hesresy. Still working away way to complete the next issue of RPG Review with last minute articles coming in; hopefully will complete by early next week.

Last Saturday evening [livejournal.com profile] caseopaya and I enjoyed the company of Brendan E., where we enjoyed dinner, drinks, and several episodes of Archer. Also very much enjoying the Friday evening gatherings organised by Keith P., a multicultural mix primarily of local students with themed discussions which help both cultural communication and understanding (not to mention English skills). Tomorrow afternoon will have other visitors (work and ex-work) colleagues and their partners to tour the Willsmere estate.

[identity profile] fluffyblanket.livejournal.com 2012-10-05 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
Julia Gillard could help Obama with numbers.
My computer tehnician,José, shares my concerns.He's an (A)narchist , a Baha'i and a yoga expert.

[identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com 2012-10-05 07:29 am (UTC)(link)
Well, there is several serious things which Australia has done which has worked well. Our economic position is not just the result of good luck.

* A shift in our tax base. A mostly quiet revolution in Australia's public income system has occurred under Rudd-Gillard. We're moving the tax-base off income earners, especially low-income earners, and on to resource usage and holdings (e.g., mining tax, carbon price).

* We've investing in serious infrastructure. The most significant being the National Broadband Network, but also (with some bumps along the way) with education. The stimulus response to the GFC worked very well for us as well. I was a little cynical of the amount that was going directly to individuals at the time, but even that seemed to have panned out OK.

[identity profile] blarglefiend.livejournal.com 2012-10-05 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
The neat bit with the money to individuals was that it was enough to be a genuine windfall, so while many used it to pay down debt or add to their savings, enough used it to go buy stuff, which is a useful if short-term bit of stimulus which everyone can wrap their head around.

In the States an awful lot of their stimulus went to tax cuts. Which is a tiny incremental change in income, at best, so it doesn't really get noticed and is spent, if at all, in tiny slow amounts. It's a trickle where what you need is a bit of a flood.

The school halls and so on were more useful as stimulus, but the cash payments weren't entirely without use.

We had real stimulus, almost everyone else opted to water it down or do crazy austerity tricks in the hope that the confidence fairies would sort it all out. Keynes wins, once again.

[identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com 2012-10-06 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
.. which everyone can wrap their head around.

That's a good point, and one which I (being a grognard bean-counter) missed; it generated a psychological effect of economic confidence.

In the States an awful lot of their stimulus went to tax cuts.

And even as direct bail-outs to the very people who caused the problem in the first place!

The problem with tax cuts as a stimulus method is that unless the drop in public income is made up from other sources, then there is next to zero net effect. In fact, if the money is taken away from infrastructure projects it can make the situation even worse.

[identity profile] blarglefiend.livejournal.com 2012-10-06 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
I'd draw a distinction between stimulus and the bank bail-outs. You'll notice that the Irish did bank bail-outs too and those have not exactly been stimulating the economy...

The GM bailout worked pretty well though, so naturally while Romney was against it at the time (very much on the record) now he's trying to claim it as his own.

Another problem with tax-cuts as stimulus is that they're hard to wind back. When you don't extend them you get accused of raising taxes, so it's very difficult for a politician who wants to be re-elected. They wind up being built in to the system over the longer term -- so they're ineffective and contribute to a structural deficit.

Infrastructure as stimulus is tricky too though. The big-ticket stuff takes quite a long time to get to the point where you're actually employing lots of people and buying materials, so unless you just happened to have something big where all the preliminary work was already done, it's... useful, but not immediately so. So you need to do the school halls and the roof insulation too.

[identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com 2012-10-07 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, that distinction between stimulus and bail-outs is very accurate. I have written a couple of pieces myself on the GFC in general and the situation in Ireland in particular.

Likewise your remarks on infrastructure. That has to be carefully considered and part of overall planning developments. After all, if one doesn't take such a point of view the pyramids of Egypt could count as an infrastructure project!

[identity profile] blarglefiend.livejournal.com 2012-10-08 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Well, if you can start building your pyramids right away then they do count as stimulus. Keynes was being a bit facetious about burying money then letting people dig it up, but there's a core of truth to it.

Just not as infrastructure!