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Diary of a B+ Grade Polymath ([personal profile] tcpip) wrote2012-08-25 10:09 pm

The Once and Future King

Over the past week or so I've been working my way through a great deal of core medieval literature, mainly courtesy of Project Gutenburg; Chaucer's The Canterbury Tales (and others) obviously, but also those from the Arthurian legends, by which Bédier's Tristan and Iseult can be included, along with more obvious contenders such as Chrétien de Troyes Arthurian Romances. I will, of course, add Malory and Beowulf to the list, forthcoming. From what has been completed however, The Canterbury Tales does give an excellent eludication of life and language from multiple perspectives at the time despite a propensity for rhyming doggerel. Troyes is more evocative (Lancelot is particularly good), but it comes from a time when grammatical constructs such as a consistent tense was apparently optional, whereas Bédier has the most tragic narrative and more modern writing style.

Much of this reading is, of course, source material for the Pendragon game that I've been running in recent months. It started off as a "generation-per-story" game derived from the wonderful historical boardgame Britannia, but in recent months we've starting playing Pendragon as it is meant to be played, i.e., the full story of the Arthurian myth, which is, of course a genuine myth. There is a plot which includes impossible changes for narrative effect (i.e., with Arthur's rise the dark ages turn into the high middle ages - in technology and custom - and decline again). There can be no doubt that Pendragon captures this brilliantly, and is well-served by Phyllis Karr's extraordinarily researched The Arthurian Companion. It was quite a coup for Chaosium to be able to publish such a scholarly work; but at the same time I wonder that perhaps the author and the work will not receive the recognition deserved because it was published by a publisher that concentrates in roleplaying games.

[identity profile] fluffyblanket.livejournal.com 2012-08-25 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't profess to know much about Chaucer except what I've read in "The Canterbury Tales".His spelling was considerably more phonetic than anything post-Dr.Johnson.
He cerainly seems to have been a jovial,tolerant man and well in advance of sharia-
"wommen of kinde desiren libertee,
And nat to ben costreyned as a thral,,,"

[identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com 2012-08-25 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
There are mixed political messages. The tale of prioress stood to to me because of the extent of the anti-Jewish comments. They eat children, you know.

[identity profile] fluffyblanket.livejournal.com 2012-08-26 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
Yes,religion has a lot to answer for.Today Christianity seems largely to have reformed , but Islam remains medieval...As I've received diksha and follow Advaita Vedanta,I must confess that the caste system still disfigures popular Hinduism-the putting togther of one's hands in greeting was originally to avoid physical contact with untouchables.Even Buddhist nuns do not have the same status as male bikkhus . Down with patriarchy!Up with Pope Joan!

[identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com 2012-08-26 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
Up with Pope Joan!

She's almost certainly a myth (like King Arthur), but a beautiful one just the same.

There's a wine bar in Melbourne called "Pope Joan"