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Diary of a B+ Grade Polymath ([personal profile] tcpip) wrote2011-06-06 11:56 am

Many Articles, Lasered Rats, Bob Gould

Have written an article on the contemporary use of "humanitarian intervention" from the Yugoslav wars to the contemporary intervention in Libya, which has caused a great deal of debate among the left. I take the opportunity to refer to the open letter by Juan Cole and why Libya 2011 is not Iraq 2003. Also from the Victorian Secular Lobby is a brief article on the changes to the Equal Opportunity Act, a site which is now helped by a media monitor who sends through daily relevant updates. And finally, have also written an article on lightbringers.net on global warming mitigation, especially when reference to comments by religious leaders (i.e., insufficient). Was very impressed to discover that my open letter to Eugene Kaspersky has been translated into Russian (link included). My site is still operative so clearly it hasn't been slashdotted yet :)

When getting a pet, I think one should engage in a cost-benefit study with regression analysis. This is after spending several hundred dollars on the weekend. To be sure, it was a batch job (3 rats, 1 cat, 1 rabbit). The cat (Mac Lir) needs dental work which is, of course, identical in price to human dental work. The rabbit (Dantilion) needs some shots and to get its fluffy arse cleaned up. The rat (Rascal) has a respiratory infection and needed antibiotics; the vet also give, gratis, laser therapy. Naturally enough, I asked the difficult question on how shining amplified light into the rodent through the skin would improve the healing process and have since learned something about this experimental technique.

Was saddened to hear of the death of Bob Gould, a well-known Sydney radical whom I had the pleasure to meet on a number of ocassions. His extensive writings were often very critical of the internal politics of the Australian far-left, and especially the DSP, and usually with a great deal of justification. To their credit, Green Left Weekly found time to say good words about him. I am personally honoured to have known him.

[identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
My issue with Cole is that he seems not to be willing to acknowledge the good that has come out of the Iraqi intervention

Such as?....

Well, I suppose the sanctions ended.

[identity profile] lifedistilled.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 12:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Such as the fact that the Iraqi people have a parliament and a means of civil redress as opposed to a tyrannical and randomly malicious despot. Such as the reasonable expectation of feminine and academic liberation at some point in our lifetime. Such as not enduring lives of endless worldwide sanction and economic hardship so that the crime family that claims to 'lead' them can build a palace in every province of the country.

There are plenty of reasons why humanistic, democratic progressives should be pleased with the removal of Saddam Hussein from a position of power (not to say authority) in Iraq. There are also plenty of reasons why humanistic, democratic progressives should loathe the lies, misinformation, mishandling and atrocity that it took to get there. I don't mean to say that Cole is 'wrong' about Iraq. I mean to say that he paints the picture as though the Libyan intervention is entirely good, and the Iraq one counterpointed as entirely evil, which it isn't.

[identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
*nods* OK, I agree with those reasons, and also with you comments regarding the relative rightness/wrongness of the Iraq/Libya interventions. In a sense they are simplistic, but I think making the issue more complex would confuse people who are already saying that the two are the same..

[identity profile] lifedistilled.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
On the other hand, overly simplifying the issue is what leads people to conflate 'Iraq' with "boondoggle" and refuse to budge their opinions, I think. You can't look at a situation like Iraq without a mountain of context.

[identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
Well it was about 80% mess, 20% success... :)

[identity profile] lifedistilled.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
I think that ratio will start to shift in time, once the rhetoric and unfair appraisals start to be forgotten and the real tolls start to be taken. America gets blamed for a great deal of the civilian deaths that occured, or at least those deaths get lumped into an ambiguous "total civilians killed since" number. And yet only a very small fraction of them are actually the fault of US Armed Forces.

The militants involved in those civilian deaths are organizations that have slowly been routed and starved out. Iraq, despite all attempts otherwise, has a reasonably democratic system, or at least the foundational underpinnings of one. It will take time and real will on the part of the country's people, but in a hundred years, it's possible that Iraq will be looked at in the same way that any other revolutionary state is examined. America didn't come to be independent without bloodshed, either.